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[676/0] Melanostoma mellinum ??? from Valter on 2008-11-01 20:45:48.846774+01 -

[679/1] Re: Melanostoma mellinum ??? from Andre on 2008-12-12 09:24:33.376372+01 -
This is not mellinum, but scalare. Note the large triangular dustspots above antennae.

[677/1] Re: Melanostoma mellinum ??? from Bastiaan on 2008-11-07 17:18:15.160904+01 -
Yes this is a M.mellinum :)

[675/0] Which Syrphid is this? from Valter on 2008-10-28 00:04:21.791641+01 -

[680/1] Re: Which Syrphid is this? from Andre on 2008-12-12 09:26:23.233995+01 -
I believe you got your answer on already: female Eristalis arbustorum :)

[678/1] Re: Which Syrphid is this? from Bastiaan on 2008-11-07 17:19:29.765074+01 -
This specie looks a bit strange to me? Anyone? Do you have a frontal view?


[672/0] Sphaerophoria taeniata ??? from Valter on 2008-10-21 10:08:27.820917+02 -

[681/1] Re: Sphaerophoria taeniata ??? from Andre on 2008-12-12 09:29:24.549949+01 -
The right way to write the name is: rueppelli.

[673/1] Re: Sphaerophoria taeniata ??? from Bastiaan on 2008-10-22 10:22:03.748557+02 -
Hi Valter, This is a Sphaerophoria ruepelli

The yellow bands on both sides of the thorax stop half way (just before the wing) and in combination with yellow 3rd antenna segment

[671/0] What Syrphidae is this? from Valter on 2008-10-21 09:29:57.674766+02 -

[674/1] Re: What Syrphidae is this? from Bastiaan on 2008-10-22 10:26:08.419997+02 -
This is also Sphaerophoria but a female which isn't easily distinguishable. It could be a S.ruepilli too but I am not sure.

[666/0] Melanostoma scalare? from Volker on 2008-09-10 18:56:07.913464+02 -

I found yesterday a little syrphid fly in my Greenhouse in Bexbach/Germany. Is this Melanostoma scalare?

thx Volker

[668/1] Re: Melanostoma scalare? from Bastiaan on 2008-09-14 09:50:58.981771+02 -
Hello Volker,

Yes it is. M.mellinum would have had a different yellow spots on tergite 3 and 4.


[667/1] Sorry, the picture failed. from Volker on 2008-09-10 19:04:16.524506+02 -

[665/0] Chalcosyrphus piger still on the wings from Kees on 2008-09-09 21:36:59.420102+02 -

At the same locality where I caught in june this year a female C.piger (near Doorn; Utrecht) I saw today (9-9-08) two males of C.piger.

Kees Goudsmits

Op dezelfde plek als op 6 juni van dit jaar ving ik vandaag op Camping de Bonte Vlucht tussen Doorn en Leersum twee mannetjes C.piger. Een foerageerde op Guldenroede en de andere zat op bladeren van een Hortensia. Er lijkt hier dus wel sprake van een populatie te zijn.


Kees Goudsmits

[669/1] Re: Chalcosyrphus piger still on the wings from Bastiaan on 2008-09-14 09:55:36.005718+02 -
Hi Kees,

So late in the year is quite unexpected I would say! I think it is really clear this specie is moving northwards.


[662/0] Identification of a syrphid fly from Volker on 2008-09-05 21:28:34.195522+02 -

Which species is that? I found this syrphid fly today in the garden.

thx Volker

[670/1] Re: Identification of a syrphid fly from Bastiaan on 2008-09-14 10:03:19.155691+02 -
Hi Volker,

It is not that clear but I would say a Syrphus rebesii. It depends a bit is the 3rd femur is more black them yellow. This I cannot see that on the photo.


[659/0] Which species is that? from Volker on 2008-09-05 17:48:14.150646+02 -

I found this syrphid fly in my garden of a Flower in Bexbach/Germany. Which species is that?

thx Volker

[660/1] Re: Which species is that? from Bastiaan on 2008-09-05 19:02:04.689162+02 -
Hello Volker,

That would be a Sphaerophoria spec. (female)


[661/2] Re: Re: Which species is that? from Volker on 2008-09-05 21:25:38.310173+02 -
Hi Bastiaan

Thanks for the answer!!

bye Volker

[654/0] Chrysotoxum verralli ? from gbooth on 2008-08-27 13:34:51.762955+02 -

Could this by Chrysotoxum verralli? The photo was taken in Dílar, S Spain, in the mountains of Sierra Nevada at 1800 masl.




[655/1] Re: Chrysotoxum verralli ? from Bastiaan on 2008-08-29 00:09:43.828067+02 -
HI Guillermo,

Very nice photo and a good identification.


 Is short:
  1. 3rd segment of antenna shorter than 1 and 2
  2. tergite 5 is predominant yellow
  3. adbominal margin is yellow black
  4. front margin of Tergite 3 an 4 are black
  5. the shape of the black front margin is a stripe and at the end it only gets wider

[656/2] Re: Re: Chrysotoxum verralli ? from gbooth on 2008-08-29 11:07:32.009222+02 -

Thanks Bastiaan!

I had looked at the keys, but I was not sure.



[657/3] Re: Re: Re: Chrysotoxum verralli ? from gbooth on 2008-08-29 11:16:43.382777+02 -

C. verralli is a species that is not in the cheklist for spain!

¿Does that mean there is a population preserved in the mountains in Sierra Nevada from colder times?

[658/4] Re: Re: Re: Re: Chrysotoxum verralli ? from Bastiaan on 2008-09-04 23:55:13.345725+02 -
The checklist on this website is not up to date at all.


[653/0] Trichopsomyia lucida in Eindhoven from Kees on 2008-08-19 16:08:51.343778+02 -

In  een stadspark in het Genderdal in Eindhoven ving ik tijdens een wandeling met mijn moeder,  met de hand een klein zwart zweefvliegje met twee vrij grote vlekken op het tweede segment. Het bleek een vrouwtje T. lucida te zijn. Niet echt verwacht in zo'n omgeving.


Kees Goudsmits

[649/0] Which Sphaerophoria species is this one? from Valter on 2008-07-28 10:40:27.902687+02 -
Photo taken in Algarve, Portugal on June 15, 2008

[652/1] Re: Which Sphaerophoria species is this one? from Bastiaan on 2008-07-29 07:46:44.908862+02 -
Hi Valter,

My best guess will be that you have taken a photo from a copula of Sphearophoria script.

Kind regards,

[648/0] 2x Paragus quardifasciatus in Belgium from Bastiaan on 2008-07-11 00:23:53.183714+02 -
Hi all,

Last few weeks not so much Syrphidae for me but still captured on 2 places in Belgium Paragus quadrifasciatus. 8 Juni I found one near Beloeil and last week one near Eupen.


[644/0] Chalcosyrphus piger near Doorn from Kees on 2008-06-10 20:26:18.449151+02 -
On the 6th of june I caught a female C.piger fouraging on Rubus fruticosa on a camping place in the middle of the Utrechtse Heuvelrug.

C.piger op "de Bonte Vlucht"

Op 6 juni ving ik op camping De Bonte Vlucht tussen Doorn en Leersum (155 + 449) een vrouwtje C.piger op braam. Hoewel haar achterlijfs-einde enigszins verdonkerd was wezen de dikke achter-dijen, kromme achterschenen en aanliggend behaard borststuk (invergelijking met B.lentus) op piger.



[645/1] Re: Chalcosyrphus piger near Doorn from Bastiaan on 2008-06-11 15:11:43.793768+02 -
Hi Kees,

It seems that this is a real Dutch C.piger invasion year. This phenomenon is already taking place the last 10 years I think. In the Verlinden from 1990 C.piger was known from several spots in the Adrennes but in the 90's I did find the specie on a regular basis in the Ardennes and Hautes Fagnes. I guess this line has reached the middle of Holland.
What is on th basis of this move? Global warming?

[646/2] Re: Re: Chalcosyrphus piger near Doorn from Andre on 2008-06-11 20:04:17.256865+02 -
My first idea would be changing forest management in combination with forests growing older.
"Global warming" would only make the species disappear from the cooler Ardennes, to my opinion, rather than this expansion to lower area's.
And not only has this species been found north up to Amersfoort/Doorn.
Also west, near Achtmaal, south of Roosendaal close to the Belgian border.
More, formerly rare species, seem to expand or become less rare in the Netherlands, like Psilota anthracina.
Which species will follow?

[647/3] Re: Re: Re: Chalcosyrphus piger near Doorn from Bastiaan on 2008-06-28 14:53:44.551324+02 -
That indeed sounds as a much better hypothesis

[643/0] Ferdinandea ruficornis near Malden from leendert on 2008-05-29 22:02:26.24173+02 -
Today I caught a female Ferdinandea after observing this hoverfly laying some eggs laying at the bottum of an oak (Quercus robur). At home I discovered that this female had yellow-red antennae bristels and only weak gray dust lines on the thorax. My first collection of the in The Netherlands very rare Ferdinandea ruficornis.
Vandaag, 29 mei, ging ik nog even zweefjes kijken nabij waar ik vorige week Chalcosyrphus piger ving. Behalve een mannetje Brachyopa pilosa op Dolle kervel en een nep Eupeodes nielseni (een vrouwtje E. luniger met rechthoekige buikplaatjes, maar zonder zwarte haren aan het begin van dij 3 en zonder zwarte zijrand op segment 5) niets opzienbarends. Wel zag ik een vrij klein vrouwtje Ferdinandea eitjes leggen aan de voet van een Zomereik. Toch maar gevangen met de hand - de laatste 2 jaar is Ferdinandea cuprea opeens vrij algemeen geworden nabij Malden -. Bij thuiskomst viel op dat de grijze strepen op het borststuk relatief vaag waren en onder de micropcoop zag ik de geelrode antenneborstels. Een vrouwtje Ferdinandea ruficornis dus!

[642/0] Chalcosyrphus piger in Amersfoort deel 2 from Gerard Pennards on 2008-05-24 22:02:58.56784+02 -

After the two males of piger I found on 11 may, I also caught a female today (24 may).

Na de twee mannetjes piger op 11 mei ving ik vandaag (24 mei) ook 1 vrouwtje Chalcosyrphus piger niewt ver van de plek waar ik de twee mannen vond. De soort lijkt me nu toch weer redelijk ingeburgerd zou ik zeggen.....

Groeten, Gerard

[640/0] Calicera rufa en Chalcosyrphus piger bij Malden from leendert on 2008-05-21 22:46:33.809508+02 -
Op 14 mei zag ik in een gebiedje tussen Malden en Molenhoek op manshoge bremstruiken niet een maar zeker tien vrouwtjes Callicera rufa. Later die dag ving ik lang de oude spoorlijn Nijmegen - Groesbeek op Vuilboom een mannetje Ceriana conopsoides. Vandaag - 21 mei - leverde het speuren op Brem in Heumensoord o.a. een vrouwtje Eupeodes nielsenii op. Langs de oude spoorlijn Nijmegen-Groesbeek dacht ik dan eindelijk mijn eerste Brachypalpoides lentus van het atlasblok van Malden te vangen. Dit vrouwtje zat op Kruipende boterbloem en na vangst bleek de achterlijfspunt ook rood i.p.v. zwart te zijn en het borststuk dof i.p.v. glimmen zwart, kortom een vrouwtje Chalcosyrphus piger. Uiteraard ook een nieuwe soort voor de omgeving van Malden.

[641/1] Re: Calicera rufa en Chalcosyrphus piger bij Malde from Bastiaan on 2008-05-23 23:52:53.331847+02 -
Hi Leendert,

Nice! It reminds me of the last time I saw them. Also on a Broom (Cytisus scoparius) we found with the Diptera weekend fellows a long time ago also like 10 of them in Germany... The area was a Pine tree area and the Broom where scattered over a sandy open terrain (and actually the only flowering plant in the wide area).


[639/0] Ch. ranunculi en Cr. pacymera in ZW Nederland from wouter van steenis on 2008-05-15 23:08:36.067662+02 -

Zweefvliegen in zuidwest Nederland

De eerste week van mei ben ik enige dagen in het zuidwesten van Nederland op stap geweest. Op Goeree op verschillende plaatsen Cheilosia ranunculi. Op plaatsen met uitbundig bloeiende knolboterbloemen waren ze te vinden (Nieuwendijk bij Havenhoofd en in de wegberm van de weg ten oosten van Havenhoofd). De mannetjes zijn, ten minste in Nederland, eenvoudig in het veld te herkennen aan de heldergeel gekleurde vleugelbasis. De mannetjes C. albitarsis hebben verdonkerde vleugels zonder zweem van geel.

Op 5 mei, terug van vogeltrektellen op Breskens, kort in Mattemburgh ten zuiden van Bergen op Zoom rondgekeken. Veruit de leukste waarneming was een vrouwtje Criorhina pachymera dat zo vriendelijk was de oude beuk te inspecteren waar Liesbeth en ik tegenaan zaten. Op zo\'n 50 cm waren de brede zwarte middenstreep en de kleur, glans en beharing van borststuk en achterlijf prima te bestuderen.

Wouter van Steenis

[636/0] Syrphidae keys from Bastiaan on 2008-05-15 13:28:49.701998+02 -
Hi All,

I would like to propose some new features for this website. I have made up the following requirements for it and I would like you all to think and react on it.
  1. Syrphidae keys, members can add adjust a key. These keys will fall under
  2. Standard specie descriptions, members are able to add this.
  3. Member profiles that connect to literature you wrote, species you described, Syrphmail you wrote, personal syrphidae links
  4. Ability to add literature for members
  5. Add photos easier.
  6. Able to edit / delete your posts to the syrphmail.
  7. Syrphidae articles
Tell me per point in scale 1 to 10 if you would like to have it added. so 1(6),2(9), etc...



[635/0] Diversen / miscellaneous from Menno Reemer on 2008-05-15 08:51:44.057289+02 -

1 male & 1 female Psilota anthracina near Groesbeek

1 female Eristalis picea near Amsterdam

Goed om te zien dat de website weer werkt! Er is toch behoefte aan zo'n plek om op de hoogte te blijven van leuke waarnemingen. Hopelijk lukt het nu om 'm permanent in de lucht te houden!

En dan meteen maar een duit in het zakje: op 11 mei ving ik een mannetje en een vrouwtje Psilota anthracina (de echte, zie artikel John Smit & Theo Zeegers in NFM) bij Groesbeek. Ze zaten op bloemen van fluitenkruid.

Ook leuk was de vangst van een vrouwtje Eristalis picea op 12 mei in het Amsterdamse Bos. In het Nederlandse kustgebied was deze soort tot nu toe alleen bekend uit het Vechtplassengebied.

[637/1] Re: Diversen / miscellaneous from Bastiaan on 2008-05-15 13:31:07.610785+02 -
I'll try my best Menno

[634/0] 10 Psilota anthracina in Brussels from Bastiaan on 2008-05-13 22:13:09.438668+02 -
Last long weekend I caught around 10 Psilota anthracina Meigen, 1822 on Hawthorn (Cartaegus / Meidoorn) in the Zonien woods south of Brussels. I also caught an other Xanthogramma leatum to finish the weekend even better. These warm days pay off!
Het pinksterweekend was weer goed. Ik vind rond 10 Psilota anthracina op meidoorn in het Zoniënwoud ten zuiden van Brussel. Om het lange weekend zeer goed af te sluiting ving ik nogmaals een Xanthogramma (Olbiosyrphus) leatum!

[633/0] Chalcosyrphus piger weer in Amersfoort from Gerard Pennards on 2008-05-12 21:48:59.014366+02 -
Yesterday I found two males of Chalcosyrphus piger just South of Amersfoort in Den Treek. One specimen on the trunk of a fallen tree, the other one on flowers of Sorbus. Last year this very rare species was found there for the first time. Other interesting syrphids: Eristalis picea (in number), Dasysyrphus tricinctus and Didea alneti.

Gisteren vond ik ten zuiden van Amersfoort twee mannetjes Chalcosyrphus piger. Eentje op een omgevallen boom, de andere op de bloemen van Lijsterbes (Sorbus). Na een zeer lange afwezigheid in Nederland wordt de soort de laatste jaren weer in Nederland gevangen. Bij Amersfoort was ze afgelopen jaar ook al gevangen door Theo Zeegers. Er schijnt dus nu werkelijk een populatie te zitten.Naast een serie meer algemene soorten waren andere leuke vangsten Eristalis picea (in aantal) op de lijsterbes, Didea alneti ook op lijsterbes en Dasysyrphus tricinctus.

Groeten, Gerard

[632/0] Chalcosyrphus valgus from pvt on 2008-05-12 21:11:52.193588+02 -
Today a male Chalcosyrphus valgus at the militairy domain of Lagland (Arlon)
Vandaag had ik op het militair domein van Lagland (Arlon) een territoriaal mannetje Chalcosyrphus valgus (volgens Van Veen, Chalcosyrphus femoratus in Verlinden).

[631/0] Xanthogramma laetum (Fabricius, 1794) from Bastiaan on 2008-05-06 19:03:52.393065+02 -
Yesterday just after work I hopped down to the Zonien woods, to see if Sphiximorpha subsessilis was flying already and indeed this was the case (as expected) I noticed though that the wounds of all the trees except for one where closed by the tree. I wonder what will happen with the little ones.  Will the population die out? I fear for it to be honest. I will try to alter some young cutted branches to see if the tree is going to bleed there otherwise the polulation needs to move on to a new place to be discovered I would was :)

BUT... the title of this message does implies somthing of a different order: yes again a new specie for me! One nice male  Xanthogramma laetum (Fabricius, 1794)
 was caught on my way back to the car!! As it is a known specie of distraction at first glance I though of a Syrphus then a Xanthogramma but quite directly I knew I had the Xanthogramma laetum (Fabricius, 1794) (formaly known as Olbiosyrphus leatum btw)

[630/0] Brachyopa panzeri from Bastiaan on 2008-05-06 18:43:48.208273+02 -
Hi all,

Last weekend I was in Luxembourg. The weather was perfect and so was the almost first catch I had there: a Brachyopa panzeri Goffe, 1945. This was a new specie for me. Finally I have catched all possible Brachyopa's Other nice species that day back in Belgium on the way back where Criorhina floccosa and Epistrophe eurchroma.

A good start of may I would say ...


[627/0] Is this Volucella zonaria? from gbooth on 2008-04-23 19:08:24.678351+02 -

I just shot this photo of a Volucella in Granada in the south of Spain. The wings have black markings that I have not seen in Volucella zonaria before.

Is it possible that it is some other species?

Thanks a lot for your help,



[628/1] Re: Is this Volucella zonaria? from Bastiaan on 2008-04-25 01:12:05.745896+02 -
Guillermo, your assumption is correct/ You have a Volucella elegans on photo here :) Up in the north here we do not know this specie very well. But in your area is it. Great photo. Can I use it on this website? My photo wasn't so good.



[629/2] Re: Re: Is this Volucella zonaria? from gbooth on 2008-04-25 18:44:04.648177+02 -

Hi Bastiaan,

Its nice to get a new species I had not seen before, especially in the patio of my flat in the center of town! Of course you can use the photo. I will send you another one taken from another side.



[663/3] Re: Re: Re: Is this Volucella zonaria? from cricri94 on 2008-09-07 21:05:36.963736+02 -
I took this photo of a syrphid fly on in Auvergne (France) the 19th of august. I think it is the same specie (Volucella zonaria). Is it right?

Thanks for the answers and best regards.


[664/4] Re: Re: Re: Re: Is this Volucella zonaria? from Bastiaan on 2008-09-07 22:46:04.039128+02 -

Your photo is a V.zonaria indeed. But the photo above is a V.eligans. Mind the dark spot on the wing.

Kind regards,

[626/0] Criorhina flocossa in Zoniƫnwoud from Bastiaan on 2008-04-20 07:52:31.09281+02 -
Yesterday I was in the Zoniënwoud, Roodklooster and saw a few Syrphidae: Episyrphus balteatus, Syrphus spec., Eristalis tenax and then a nice one one Criorhina floccosa. The Sphiximorpha isn't there yet but I keep an eye on those trees from now on. They changed the surroundings of the trees so I hop it will not affect the flies too much. The trees are now on the border of a huge grass area, fingers crossed!
Gisteren was ik in het Zoniënwoud (Roodklooster) on weer eens zweefvliegen to zien. Gelukkig toch nog een beetje. Episyrphus balteatus, Syrphus spec., Eristalis tenaxen een Criorhina floccosa. De Sphiximorpha was er nog niet maar ik hou het in de gaten. De bosbouwers hebben de omgeving 'aangepakt' dus ik hoop dat dit goed gaat komen. De bomen staan nu direct aan een grasveld. Hopen op het besten zullen we maar zeggen!

[624/0] Brachypalpus valgus from Bastiaan on 2008-03-03 22:55:42.371979+01 -
On the 24’th of februari 2008 I was on a trip near Lac du Der in France. We were looking for birds (Cranes) and saw about 23.000 of them. On this day we also visited a forest south of the village: Montier du Der ,situated south of Lac du Der, to look for Dendrocopus medius, which we saw indeed. The whether was fine: 18 degrees Celsius, clear sky.

We saw some Butterflies , wild Bees and some Hoverflies: mainly Episyrphus balteatus and Eristalis tenax and I caught one species which I named at first Criorhina asilica. However, being home again it became clear that it was a female Brachypalpus valgus.

I was very excited catching my first syrphidae of the year of such a species so early in the season.


Kees Goudsmits

[638/1] Re: Brachypalpus valgus from wouter van steenis on 2008-05-15 22:59:08.917964+02 -
Identification confirmed

Ha Kees,

fraaie foto van deze toch best bijzondere zweefvlieg in Europa. Op de foto is duidelijk de vorm van de antennes te zien. Dit is een heel goed kenmerk om Brachypalpus valgus te onderscheiden van B. laphriphormis.


Wouter van Steenis

[625/1] Re: Brachypalpus valgus from Bastiaan on 2008-03-03 23:26:35.951028+01 -
Hi Kees,

Via the photo I can't identify the specie very well. I hope you have it at home and you are sure of your identification. To me it looks like a B.laphriformis but I can't see the face in frontal view (must have a vertical black stripe) and the thoraxcic dorsum need to be shiny but I have the feeling it doesn't.

Still I am jealous as I only saw a couple of E.balteatus and E.tenax  (and on top that I am sitting to much behind a desk indoors )



[622/0] E.tenax and E.balteatus from Bastiaan on 2008-02-10 15:08:14.757263+01 -
Yesterday I saw while enjoying the warm weather a female Eristalis tenax and a female Episyrphus balteatus. My first 2 Syrphids this year :)

[621/0] Eerste zweefjes van 2008. from leendert on 2008-02-10 15:05:02.966564+01 -
Because of the unusual warm temperatures, several overwintering syrphids were already encountered on februari 8-10. Mostly females of Episyrphus balteatus, but also some females of Eristalis tenax and a female of Scaea selenitica. However, also I observed a male of E. balteatus! Last year, I have encountered a few males of E. auricollis in early spring. Overwintering of males of syrphids seems to become more common. Maybe because of the very soft winter temperatures.
Afgelopen vrijdag, 8 februari in Arnhem mijn eerste Episyrphus balteatus. Op 9 februari bij de begraafplaats van Malden zag ik tientallen vrouwtjes E. balteatus, een tiental vrouwtjes Eristalis tenax en een vrouwtje Scaeva selenitica. Enkel overwinteraars dus. Meest opmerkelijk was echter een mannetjes E. balteatus die onder meer opviel omdat hij relatief fel oranjegeel gekleurd was terwijl de meeste overwinterende vrouwtjes E. balteatus vrij donker getint zijn. Vorig jaar had ik hier ook al overwinterende mannetjes E. auricollis. Kennelijk kunnen door de softe winter nu ook mannetjes zweefvliegen overwinteren.

[618/0] Could I have some help identifying this sirphid? from gbooth on 2008-02-03 20:08:05.755184+01 -

I would really appreciate if you could give me a hand with this one. 



[619/1] Re: Could I have some help identifying this sirphi from Bastiaan on 2008-02-06 17:10:00.765072+01 -
Its most probably a Merodon. You better capture it as genital identification is needed for a positive identification... I will be happy to identify it for you if you like.

As a general rule photographed Syrphidae are better to capture so you have a live reference to it to be absolutely sure of its identity.

[620/2] Re: Re: Could .. identifying this sirphi from gbooth on 2008-02-07 18:38:05.849313+01 -

Thanks for your offer Bastian. At present I photograph insects while I work as a geologist in the field, so I really do not have the time to capture them. Although I will think of it for the future. I have the impression there is a lot to do concerning syrphids in Spain.



[615/1] Re: Melanostoma dubium? from Gerard Pennards on 2008-01-02 12:38:00.048814+01 -
Meligramma cingulata?

[616/2] Re: Re: Melanostoma dubium? from Bastiaan on 2008-01-21 19:54:29.69816+01 -
What do you mean? You added a which-list for this year ;-)

[617/3] Re: Re: Re: Melanostoma dubium? from Gerard Pennards on 2008-01-28 22:42:14.079713+01 -

Hello Bastiaan,

I was answering a message from Leendert in 2006 about a presumably Mleanostoma dubium from France, of which my suggestion would be Meligramma cingulata maybe!

But it seems I did something wrong.... Sorry for that,

greetings, Gerard

[623/4] Re: Re: Re: Re: Melanostoma dubium? from leendert on 2008-02-10 15:11:25.359577+01 -

Hi Gerard,

In 2006, I collected inded a female of Melangyna cingulata in the Drome near Die. You can't key it out with the key of van der Veen (2006). It is not in there! At this site, I also collected a few females of Melanostoma dubium. They look very diiferent from each other. Thus both species at the same site. I might visit this place again this year in early may.